Hi, up for auction is a nice set of claro walnut donated by Coe Franklin! Thanks Coe.
Personally I love walnut, some of my best guitars have been made from this stuff.
Enjoy.
| Official Luthiers Forum! http://www-.luthiersforum.com/forum/ |
|
| AUCTION -- CLARO WALNUT http://www-.luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10102&t=6323 |
Page 1 of 2 |
| Author: | Brock Poling [ Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
Hi, up for auction is a nice set of claro walnut donated by Coe Franklin! Thanks Coe. Personally I love walnut, some of my best guitars have been made from this stuff. Enjoy.
|
|
| Author: | LanceK [ Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
Here are some words from Coe about this set -- "The sides are 49 1/2" long by 4" wide. There are splits on the ends, as I haven`t cut them to length yet, but every bit of 40" is usable. The backs are 24 1/2" tall by 7 11/16" wide. Like the sides, there is splitting, leaving an honest 21 1/2" usable. If the bidders wish, I can thickness them farther with 80 grit to their specs, though I wouldn`t go any thinner on the backs until they`re joined." |
|
| Author: | K2KEM [ Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
Hi, I'm very interested ...although new to guitar making I don't know what is a fair price to start the auction, and I don't want to insult anyone. Is there a minimum? |
|
| Author: | LanceK [ Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
there is no minimum -- Happy bidding! 
|
|
| Author: | Brock Poling [ Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
No minimum. Walnut sets vary in price... claro seems to bring a little more than black walnut. This is a good wood to start with because it bends like plastic. Black walnut sets without figure usually come in around $50 or so, and claro a little more. |
|
| Author: | Serge Poirier [ Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
That's very generous of you Coe! WTG bud!  
Awesome set BTW! Serge |
|
| Author: | Josh H [ Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
Well I already have several sets of walnut but I am willing to at least get the bidding started. $5 Josh |
|
| Author: | K2KEM [ Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
Okay, I'm in for $25 |
|
| Author: | hoosierukes [ Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
$30 |
|
| Author: | Mario [ Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
Whoa! 4 inches for the sides? Is that right? If so, they aren't even wide enough for a 000.... |
|
| Author: | Cocephus [ Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
Yes, 4" on the side width. That`s the dimension I have on my plan (Scott Antes, dwg AGP-07). |
|
| Author: | Dave-SKG [ Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
I missed it...when does this auction end? |
|
| Author: | RussellR [ Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
Dave Friday 28 at Noon EST |
|
| Author: | RCoates [ Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | |
[QUOTE=Mario] Whoa! 4 inches for the sides? Is that right? If so, they aren't even wide enough for a 000....[/QUOTE] I've got a dread with a finished thickness of 4 1/8" at the tail and It's a great guitar to play. Not conventional but great none the less. |
|
| Author: | Mario [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
I also build a shallow dreadnought(we call it the "CD", for comfort dread) that proves you don't need to be deep to be good. It's sides are 4-1/16" at the tail. 4 inches does sneak-in in an OM(and you can always leave the linings a bit proud to make up some height), but this is raw wood, and leaves no room for dressing and such. Odds are that is won't be dead straight, and if you cut a radius to both edges, to have 4" at the tail, you need to start with close to 4-1/4".... I won't accept anything that doesn't leave me at least 1/8" to work with, and I'd rather have 1/4" extra. I like to see 5-1/4" sides so that I'm free to choose what to build with them. This back is large enough for a dread... It's a lovely set of wood, and I'd like to bid on it, but it's unecessarily unusable as it is. Sad.... |
|
| Author: | Don Williams [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
[QUOTE=Sir Mario of the North] I like to see 5-1/4" sides so that I'm free to choose what to build with them.[/QUOTE] Don't we all....with 5-1/4" you can get a dread and bindings too.... 
I typically like to have 4.5", and find it's plenty big for anything I build. It's not like I build my dreads 5" thick or anything like that, so it's easy enough to work with 4.5". 4" seems on the narrow side to me too, but someone can build a thinline or other from this set easily. |
|
| Author: | Mario [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
4.5" won't make a regular dreadnought or typical "jumbo"... I'm sure this set will become something nice, for sure. The reason I'm saying all of this is so that we may realize next time that wider is better. I've stopped buying wood from folks who try to size it too closely. I believe they think they're doing us a favor, but they aren't. One seller from way back would rough cut his backs to the rough outline. Ack! Made joining a pain, and left no room to move the pattern within the piece. Others thickness them to about 140". No thanks.... Leave it rough. |
|
| Author: | D.L.Huskey [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
What is the differences in "Carlo Walnut" and Black Walnut? |
|
| Author: | RussellR [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
Claro is a cross breed I believe, it was developed to grow faster and yield more walnuts. |
|
| Author: | RussellR [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
I just realised DL my previous answer is more help to a walnut grower, than a luthier. Tone wise I don't find much difference, but I have only used Black Walnut twice, and Claro once, I use mainly European Walnut. |
|
| Author: | D.L.Huskey [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
Thanks Russell, I was just wondering. I have never used "Carlo Walnut" but I have used a good bit of American Black walnut and visually I couldn't see any difference. I will hush now so y'all can carry on with the bidding. |
|
| Author: | Bruce Dickey [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
North American Black Walnut is juglans nigra. Claro Walnut is juglans regia. And surprise surprise, European and Circassian Walnut is also juglans regia, how'd that happen? If you asked me, I'd say the walnut in this auction was black walnut. I have a barn full and it looks just like this. I'm also cutting some claro right now and it doesn't look like this. More yellows, and browns and tans, but I'm no expert. I sure like the way it smells though. Claro and Black. |
|
| Author: | Larry Davis [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
[QUOTE=D.L.Huskey] What is the differences in "Carlo Walnut" and Black Walnut?[/QUOTE] As Bruce said, American Black Walnut is species Juglans nigra and is a native eastern USA tree. European walnut is indeed Juglans regia for almost all walnut found in Europe. Local walnut trade names abound and whether it's "English" walnut, "French Walnut", "Persian" walnut or whatever other name it is still the species Juglans regia. Different growing conditions and mostly soil mineral content provide the varied aesthetic appearances. Juglans hindsi or "Western walnut" or California walnut or "Oregon walnut" or the dubiously trade named "Claro walnut" is native to the western USA and is the root stock of walnut orchards. European walnut (Juglans regia is grafted onto this hardy, native root stock and produces the walnut crop. Again, soil and it's mineral content result in the various colors and pigment patterns of Juglans hindsi. "Claro" walnut does not automatically mean "figured" walnut in the sense of curl or flame or fiddleback, but it does signify it's western origins. One other native walnut species to California is Juglans californica, a smaller tree we often found in the Sierra Nevada foot hills. There are about 15 species of walnuts around the world (true genus Juglans)so this post shouldn't be taken as complete written in stone stuff. Hope it clears up a bit of confusion. |
|
| Author: | Bruce Dickey [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
Thanks Larry, gee, U sure know your wood. My little Beautiful Woods booklet, Art and Science in Wood, led me astray again. It doesn't even have juglan hindsi. So, now that that's cleared up, I can sleep well tonight. Storms a brewing down here though.... |
|
| Page 1 of 2 | All times are UTC - 5 hours |
| Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group http://www.phpbb.com/ |
|